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Poster: pfunk_49 Date: Jan 1, 2005 5:58am
Forum: etree Subject: creative nomad for taping

I've been looking into buying a portable player that I can also use for recording shows (I occasionally use my MD at small shows)and need some advice. It seems like the only one's used here are the Nomad JB3's. has anyone used the Archos Gmini or Rio Karma. any input would be awsome.

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Poster: alienbobz Date: Jan 1, 2005 7:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: creative nomad for taping

If you are looking for a JB3, try ebay. I believe that Creative still has a refurbished store of them. Should be about $200. Another option if you want to avoid the DAT thing is go with Hi-MD recorders. About 200 bucks or more. It does record in cd quality (old md recorders are less than cd quality), and have a usb out so you don't have to have an addition deck to transfer them.

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Poster: Tyler Date: Jan 1, 2005 7:08am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: creative nomad for taping

those two record only in mp3 or not at all i think. Nomad Jukebox 3 is the only one (right now) that is cheap and records in uncompressed wav ... unfortuantely it was discontinued by Creative a few years ago, so they are only available in slim numbres in various locations... something will come out i'm sure in the next few years, but for now, for taping and playback and price, you really can't do better then the nomad. it's what i use after having MD's and i've never looked back.

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Poster: J.B. Nicholson-Owens Date: Jan 1, 2005 9:24am
Forum: etree Subject: iRiver H140

How about the iRiver H140 (40GB hard drive model, records to WAV at 16bit 44.1kHZ or 48kHZ)? From reviews I've read, it appears as a mass storage USB device to a personal computer, so no need for proprietary software to put or get files from the device. It also has a line-in jack so one could record from a line level input as an alternative to using the built-in condenser mic.

I'm considering getting this model and if anyone has any feedback on it, particularly critical feedback, I'd like to hear it so I can weigh it in light of my planned use (recording at least 1 hour of uninterrupted audio from line level sources for eventual encoding as Ogg Vorbis files).

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Poster: Tyler Date: Jan 1, 2005 4:34pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: iRiver H140

i had not heard about the iRiver H140 ... if that is in current production, it might be the successor for tapers to the NJ3, as that was discontinued ... interesting! i'll have to look into it more .. if it does all the things you say i don't see the bad aspects of using that for recording shows..

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Poster: J.B. Nicholson-Owens Date: Jan 1, 2005 5:01pm
Forum: etree Subject: Neuros devices look even better

The Neuros devices look even better than the iRiver devices because the Neuros devices come with larger hard drives (more recording time) and firmware that I believe qualifies as both free software and open source. Also, supporting software that I believe qualifies as free software and open source.

This would be critical to anyone looking to fix bugs in their Neuros player software or firmware even if Neuros discontinues writing software for the device or if Neuros goes out of business.

The Neuros devices also record 44.1kHz WAV and connect to one's computer via USB (USB2, actually, for the most recent revisions of the Neuros hardware; I've seen these referred to as "Neuros II"). But I don't know if they are seen as a mass storage device (hence, no operating system drivers needed for modern operating systems, just plug them in and read/write whatever files you want).

I don't work for Neuros, I'm just interested in these devices to easily record line-level input to a 44.1kHz WAV file which I can then easily dump to a computer for editing, compression, and uploading to archive.org for sharing.

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Poster: greenone Date: Jan 2, 2005 11:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Neuros devices look even better

The Nomad Jukebox 3 is the only one that records via a digital input, which is really what you're looking for; otherwise, you're using the built-in pre/A-D, which can be noisy.

Well, the iRiver records via digital as well, but there's a time limit of ~75 minutes, I think...

This post was modified by greenone on 2005-01-02 19:28:41

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Poster: galactic Date: Jan 2, 2005 1:42pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Neuros devices look even better

I have the iRiver H-140, and yes, it does record wav's or mp3 at 44 or 48kHz. You can record using line-in or optical in (and it also has optical out, which is unique among other mp3 players). There is a file size limit of ~800MB, but that should be plenty of space for 1 set. You just need to hit stop, then press record for the next 800 MB file. Hopefully this will be fixed in the next firmware release.

I think it's a great player/recorder.

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Poster: mickey622 Date: Jan 10, 2005 4:22am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: iRiver H140

Don't know about the iRiver. I have an ARCHOS AV320 (20gb). It acts as mass storage w/usb2 speeds. Archos updates the software periodically.
You can record directly to it and I don't think there is any time limit(either wav or I believe MP3).
You can also record video to it (comes with an adapter to record to MPEG4). You need the addon video camera though.
I only use it as an MP3 player but I'm pretty sure you can get addon microphones to record stereo.
It's a little heavier than an IPOD but you can definatly put it in a pocket.
check it out at www.archos.com.
I got it on ebay for $300.

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Poster: alienbobz Date: Jan 1, 2005 11:40am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: iRiver H140

No clue about that. I think there may be one guy on taperssection.com that uses it. I would post there to see if you get any response. The Nomad Jukebox 3 is definately the standard mp3/wav recorder. I have heard a few people using Neuros but I also heard that they aren't that great. There a few more ones but they are expensive (the newest one that comes to my mind is the Edirol R-1, which is about $400 and stores music on flash cards). Good luck in finding the recoder you want.